you noy how he does the concerts for those families whose fathers died in afghanistan and iraq? ron jeremy is there. the lead singing group was leonard skin nerd. so ron jeremy is the guest. somebody said will you take a picture with ron jeremy? i walk back stage and there he is. i thought, hold it! do you have any idea who that is? i said, 15,000 x-rated movies. i literally had to take ron outside and say i am a big fan and you know each other and you cants do it with this guy. you will ruin his career. but i can take a picture with him. >> you worked -- it was like the first talk show with tony snow, right? >> the first one on fox cable. it was called off the record. they won an emmy when they took us off the air. but we followed "cops" and before" america's most wanted" so we didn't have the lead in we needed. >> but didn't tony help you a lot? >> he was great. he was one of the things -- this is sad. i love him. we gave a speech once and we had to fly overnight to get there. i was so hung over and i thought it was date before and it was the day after. tony went and wrote my